There is nothing new in #Chumakov's interview, he just repeats the claims made first and originally by #Montagnier, which do deserve the serious attention and appear to be valid. The purpose of MK publication is to reinforce the same #GERMAN #INTEL #COVER: Wuhan Lab as culprits | The New Abwehr's Bioweapon - Luc Montagnier: We have come to the conclusion that there has been manipulation on this virus. Part, I do not say the total... What purpose ? I do not know (…). |
-There is nothing new in #Chumakov's interview, he just repeats the claims made first and originally by #Montagnier, which do deserve the serious attention and appear to be valid. The purpose of MK publication is to reinforce the same #GERMAN #INTEL #COVER: Wuhan Lab as culprits pic.twitter.com/VYRJGh9xWE— Michael Novakhov (@mikenov) April 24, 2020
https://tweetsandnews.blogspot.com/2020/04/there-is-nothing-new-in-chumakovs.html
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The New Abwehr's Bioweapon
Luc Montagnier: We have come to the conclusion that there has been manipulation on this virus. Part, I do not say the total... What purpose ? I do not know (…). |
Etienne Simon-Loriere, researcher at the Institut Pasteur: "To recreate such a large virus would require technical knowledge that few labs in the world have - probably less than a dozen..."
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The coronavirus, made from the AIDS virus? Professor Montagnier's highly contested thesis
The 2008 Nobel Prize in Medicine has taken over a flawed Indian study, which claims that SARS-CoV-2 has been manipulated in the laboratory.
The argument seems unstoppable: the SARS-CoV-2 virus was made in the laboratory from the AIDS virus (HIV), it is a Nobel Prize in medicine which affirms it. Thursday April 16, Professor Luc Montagnier, who received this great scientific distinction in 2008 for his participation in the discovery of the virus responsible for AIDS, affirms in an interview with the site Pourquoidocteur.fr that SARS-CoV-2 is a human fabrication , and "the history of the fish market (…) a beautiful legend" .
“We have come to the conclusion that there has been manipulation on this virus. Part, I do not say the total. there is a model which is the classic virus, coming mainly from the bat, but to which has been added over HIV sequences. "
“It is not natural, it is the work of a professional, a molecular biologist, a watchmaker of sequences. What purpose ? I do not know (…). One of my hypotheses is that they wanted to make an AIDS vaccine. "
WHY IT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY
A sequence common to several viruses
Professor Montagnier's thesis is far from convincing the scientific community. The latter cites in fact the broad outlines of the conclusions of a study published at the end of January on a prepublication site (and not in a scientific journal) by researchers from the Indian Institute of Technology in New Delhi and very disputed by specialists. This one already evoked "a strange similarity" , "which is unlikely to be fortuitous" , in the amino acid sequences of a protein of SARS-CoV-2, virus responsible for Covid-19, and that of HIV-1, the main cause of AIDS.
This study was almost immediately taken up by conspiracy and sensationalist websites, before being withdrawn by its authors themselves. Indeed, said amino acid sequences - defined by the genetic heritage of the virus - are in reality common in many strains, which has earned this thesis of a proximity between the two viruses critical of specialists .
"There is too little similarity with the sequence of the HIV virus to conclude that there is a significant exchange of genetic material," said Gaëtan Burgio, geneticist and group leader at Australian National University. In January, the Massive Science scientific community listed around fifteen different viruses with the same sequence common to HIV and SARS-CoV-2. Among these: a sweet potato virus, a nectarine virus or a wasp virus.
This list is all the less significant as the common sequence is short. "If there were real insertions of HIV sequences, the fragments would have been much larger and more specific ," says Dr. Burgio. Rather, it is a register of coincidence. "
Unlikely human manipulation
The idea that SARS-CoV-2 may have been the product of genetic engineering is also far from unanimous. Human-made viruses exist but are often spectacular combinations of existing viruses, which in general make them easy for microbiologists to recognize. However, SARS-CoV-2 does not have the characteristics of an artificial virus and there is no suspicious genetic loan to say that there would have been human intervention.
"It looks too much like something natural for there to be any doubt that it is something artificial," said Etienne Simon-Loriere, researcher at the Institut Pasteur, interviewed by Le Monde, on the possibility that the virus came from a laboratory:
"To recreate such a large virus would require technical knowledge that few labs in the world have - probably less than a dozen - and it seems unlikely that scientists could have created a virus that interacts with the receptor as well ACE2 [by which it settles in the human body], whereas this mechanism had never been observed before. "
Most scientists agree that the virus responsible for Covid-19 is of animal origin - bats and / or pangolin - as recently confirmed by Chinese , British-Australian-American and American studies -Switzerland . According to the University of Pennsylvania , SARS-CoV-2 mutated very precisely from a recombinantly adapted bat coronavirus, RaTG13, between 1948 and 1982.
And if there are very precise virus editors, such as the now famous Crispr-Cas9 tool, this possibility does not convince specialists any more. “I have been asked this multiple times and my answer is clearly“ no ”, sums up Gaëtan Burgio, who is a user. There is so much divergence at the genetic level that it would be practically impossible at the practical level to tamper with Crispr. This assumption is completely absurd. " About as much as treating the virus with magnetic waves, one of Luc Montagnier's wacky proposals.
The distorting prism of HIV discovery
It is not the first time that despite the prestige due to its title, the 2008 Nobel Prize has been dubbed by other scientists. It must be said that if he was rewarded for his work in the early 1980s, he distinguished himself in the 2010s by theses increasingly iconoclastic, today at odds with the rest of the scientific community.
He supports, for example, the very controversial thesis of the "memory of water" by Jacques Benveniste, defends a microbial origin of autism, proposed to cure the pope's Parkinson's disease with papaya juice and left on a crusade against vaccines. A position that earned him, in 2017, to be the subject of a petition from more than a hundred doctors, denouncing "dangerous" remarks . Several experts contacted by Le Monde on the question of the Covid-19 have also refused to comment publicly on his "nonsense" , deeming them unworthy of interest.
"We can make a long list of derailed Nobel prizes in science, either in ideology (like the Nobel prizes in physics who became Nazis, Lenard, Stark), or in false science (Watson and his racist comments in 2007, Montagnier) ” , recalls the science historian at the University of Paris Alexandre Moatti, author of Alterscience: postures, dogmas, ideologies (Odile Jacob, 2013). And to point out that Luc Montagnier's expertise in HIV could constitute a distorting prism.“The scientific spirit tries to embrace a certain number of data, sometimes contradictory, especially in the case of the Covid-19, to reason from facts, in a certain discretion; the alterscientific will bring everything back to his favorite subject, and in addition will want to lather as well. "
If the genetic code of the virus is well known today and its synthetic origin discarded, there are still many gray areas on the way it appeared. Two theses are preferred today: that, advanced by epidemiologists, of a natural transmission which would have passed through the market to the wild animals of Wuhan and a host animal, possibly the pangolin; the other, relaunched on April 16 by the United States in the context of a diplomatic showdown with China, of an accidental contamination in a virology laboratory in Wuhan renowned for its research on bats.
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